Talk:Reading Order

Reading Order Rules
Keep this page spoiler-free! Since the page is intended to orient people new to the Shadow Unit content, it should, as much as is humanly possible, be kept spoiler-free.

ooohhh....pretty.

(am I supposed to sound more official than that?)

I agree on the need for more formatting, though. Although I think it might just need more space between each episode and /or lump of extras.

Jennygadget 02:35, 2 April 2009 (UTC) jennygadget 17:35, 1 April 2009 (UTC))

Added borders which helps a bit. Hmm. Space between eps. Hmm. Wanders off to pore over the table help page some more...

http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Help:Table

jeffy 09:00, 2 April 2009 (UTC)

I think its more readable with all of the table filled in and blank.

And I made the Vigil link a bit more useful, I think. It might deserve a table of its own though.--YuriPup 16:31, 3 April 2009 (UTC)

Tasha & Chaz
I've tweaked the section for the vigil extras in a way that I think avoids the conflict between consistency and clarity.

jeffy 10:00, 4 April 2009 (UTC)


 * Nice changes, better than what I had.--YuriPup 10:54, 4 April 2009 (UTC)

I would suggest removing the character names from the Vigil listings, as they are in themselves spoilers.--Matociquala 01:08, 5 April 2009 (UTC)


 * Are you thinking of the presence of Chaz's name? Any suggestion how we should distinguish them since most of them don't have actual titles, and all have the same date designation? jeffy 05:14, 5 April 2009 (UTC)


 * I took the names off the extra pages of the labels that were on the Vigil index page. Do you think we should just Refer to them by number? I was just trying to be consistent with the web page. --YuriPup 05:27, 5 April 2009 (UTC)


 * I would suggest just referring to them by number. The Vigil index page assumes you've already read Refining Fire: this page should not, since we are directing people to start with it. --Matociquala 01:06, 6 April 2009 (UTC)


 * Makes sense. I've made it so. Thanks! jeffy 01:13, 8 April 2009 (UTC)

Main Page
Any thoughts about putting a link to the reading order on the main page? It's probably one of the most useful resources we have so far.--YuriPup 10:55, 4 April 2009 (UTC)


 * Bear took care of this jeffy 01:13, 8 April 2009 (UTC)

Intro Text
I pulled out some of the text that was contradictory, since a reading order clearly exits, and moved the credits down to the bottom, its less useful than the list itself. I moved the warning to keep the page spoiler free here to talk, it seems the more appropriate place. --YuriPup 11:16, 4 April 2009 (UTC)

I would suggest restoring the spoiler warning to the front page, or at least including an assurance that this page is being kept as spoiler free as possible. --Matociquala 01:09, 5 April 2009 (UTC)

Agreed. I'll add a spoiler-free message back on. jeffy 05:01, 5 April 2009 (UTC)

Hey, I was clicking around and happened to notice that the link to the original forum post seems to be broken. I don't know how to fix that, though. --makito 03:43, 4 December 2011 (EST)

Not sure what happened, but it should be working again now. Thanks for pointing it out! jeffy 04:21, 6 December 2011 (UTC)

Use of Templates
I would like to set up some templates that can be used in the Reading Order guide. These would be unnoticeable to a reader of the page, only be relevant when editing the page. I like the use of templates in large tables like this because they a) reduce the number of characters needed for each item by a small amount, and b) make the large blocks of wikisource more human-readable (at least to me). The two templates I have set up are Template:StoryLink and Template:indent.

Template:StoryLink allows  playlist  to be re-written as  . Template:indent allows all the cases of  style="padding-left:3em"  to be re-written as       . These aren't hugely valuable changes, but they're useful from my perspective. However if either of these templates make it harder for other people to make changes to the table, then they aren't useful!

I'm going to go ahead and put in the indent template, since that's the simpler, straightforward one. I'll wait on the other to hear some conversation here (or possibly add in just one example).

(I was also hoping the templates would allow the circumventing of the outside link captcha only for links to shadowunit.org, but the captcha is too smart for that. Probably just as well.) Aidan 00:48, 13 September 2010 (UTC)

The templates are spiffy. Anything anyone can do to make this page easier to edit and/or prettier to look at is welcome. jeffy

Ok! Aidan 07:42, 14 September 2010 (UTC)

Captcha Broken, preventing updates to this page
The captcha extension which comes up when an edit includes a link to an outside page is failing. It stalls out, and then returns a blank page saying "Failed to open socket". This is preventing this extremely useful page from being effectively updated.

Can an admin please address this issue? Aidan 03:24, 10 December 2010 (UTC)

Is it working now? I can't see the problem, you see --Matociquala 14:18, 11 December 2010 (UTC)

Sorry, got distracted, didn't see your response. No, I'm still getting the same problem :( Doesn't seem like a problem that could be on my end, and I think I tested that back when I first got the problem, but I'll double check that when I get a chance to try it on some different computers. Aidan 08:03, 26 December 2010 (UTC)